"Less than 5% of the artists in the Met's modern section are women, but 85% of the nudes were". This statistic is taken from a recent article in Felix about women in the (visual) arts world. The article is questioning why so few paintings by women are exhibited in art galleries around the world. I found the article really interesting, and so I set about recording the little I know about this matter.
Historically, most great painters are male. The article quotes an art historian from New York University to say what I could have told you: the reason that historically there are less great women painters is the same that accounts for less great women scientists, writers or thinkers: painting, doing science, writing and thinking weren't women's "roles". Most women weren't educated, most women weren't expected to pursue art, or literature or philosophy, and when they did, their work was often rejected or they took male names in order to publish/exhibit it (there is a possibility that our lack of evidence for female artists stems from the fact that artists that we assume to be male are actually females in "disguise", although I don't put much stock in this theory: most likely, a woman had to be very brave, very insistent, very willing to break with tradition, and very, very lucky to be able to train as an artist, if she was allowed to train she was probably allowed to exhibit). In summary, the reason there are few great women painters in history is because historically there have been very few women painters at all.
However, the statistic given above doesn't deal with women's role in art, but with women's role in modern art, where one might expect a more egalitarian distribution of paintings between the sexes. The article discusses the many explanations that have been given to try to explain the statistic above. The first one is the theory of the "male gaze". The reason there are so many female nudes in galleries worldwide is because as a society we look at the world (and by extension, we look at art) from a heterosexual male perspective, thus finding the female form especially aesthetically pleasing. This would certainly explain why there are more female nudes in galleries (and quite honestly, I am inclined to agree that the female form is more beautiful than the male form, even though this means I can't quite explain why I find men a lot more attractive), but I fail to understand why it would explain that there are less women artists. The author says that the explanation would be that women artists don't have the male point of view so they can't connect with their public in the same way as male artists. However, this argument falls flat, not because women have explored the female form (as the author argues) but for a more simple reason: if as a society we all (men and women) look at art from a heterosexual male point of view, then surely women don't lack this point of view at all, and female artists should be perfectly capable of creating from this "male gaze" way of seeing the world and resonate perfectly well with audiences. In conclusion, even though I agree with the author that the "male gaze" theory doesn't explain the statistic, I disagree on his reasons. The fact that women have painted nudes but are still less represented isn't a good argument against the male gaze (after all, the way women choose to represent themselves or others of they gender might be significantly different from the way men would), but the fact that if we accept that the "male gaze" exists for the whole of society then it must exist for women painters too is a far stronger logical argument that leads to the same conclusion: the exclusion of women artists from galleries has little to do with how they see the world. The male gaze might explain, however, why there are so many more female nudes.
I think in the previous paragraph I have hit on a central point: I am writing as though the people who appreciates art, or who have power in terms of appreciating art, are an even group composed of 50% men and 50% women. And even though access to art and to art schools has become more egalitarian during the 20th and the 21st century (in fact, according to the article, 60% of art students are currently women), it is important to say that there is a possibility that the cause of the "male gaze" effect is that the people making the decisions in the industry are male. This doesn't necessarily imply a "club", but it does imply that if there is a difference in the way men and women appreciate art, then whichever sex has the money will be the sex whose views are more represented. Of course, this is what the article finishes by arguing, that men are the ones controlling the industry and this is why we see more art by men. I don't know if this is true. I can't know if this is true. It is an explanation. However, this would mean that men and women have essentially different ways of seeing the world, or seeing art. That our appreciation of beauty, of transcendence is fundamentally different. In other words, if this is true, it means that men and women are different, and that there is no reconciliation, that I will never understand the way a man sees the world because I am a woman. I refuse to accept this, probably because I am a reader. I refuse to accept that Kipling wrote Kim for men, and that I can't understand it because I am a woman. I would much rather accept that Kipling wrote Kim for pleasure, to show other people the world as he saw it, and that if I can't understand parts of it it has more to do with the fact that Kipling grew up in India in the 19th century and understood the country better than I can ever hope to. I refuse to accept that Salman Rushdie can never understand Harry Potter, because it was written by a woman, even though he was a huge fan of the books. I refuse to accept that my father can't understand my short stories because he is a man, or that I can't understand his because I am a woman. No, I think we are all people, and we can understand each other, and that this understanding has a lot more to do with culture and upbringing than it does with sex or gender.
So what gives? As much as I hate to admit it, the feeling I get from reading the article and thinking about it is this: the reason there are more men artists than women artists is because there is a prejudice against women artists, a prejudice that is also attached to women writers and thinkers, and to a much lesser extent to women scientists, that their work is less valuable because it was done by a woman. The feeling is that it has little to do with the work itself, and that here, in the world of art, where beauty should be appreciated beyond who created it, an instance of ingrained sexism appears clear.
And yes, I hate to admit it. I hate to admit it because I have grown up thinking that I have never been discriminated against for being a girl. I hate admitting it because I like to think that the people I talk to don't have this ingrained attitude. I hate to admit it because I usually don't believe feminists when they are loud about women being hated.
I don't know what can be done about it. But I am thankful to Fred Fyles for the article. It's made me think. It's made me reconsider my views on a topic that I thought I had more or less clear views on.
In some industries there's clearly still gender discrimination. However I'm always cautious about looking at statistics and making this conclusion.
ReplyDeleteA commonly used data point for highlighting gender discrimination is the pay gap. Men generally earn more for performing the same role. This is true amongst artists as well, I remember reading that the average male game artist earned ~$70k a year while the average female equivalent earned ~$55k a year. A clear sign of gender discrimination? Maybe not.
Something I've noticed while working is that my successful female colleagues are as confident and assertive as my male colleagues, and far more so that both my less successful male and female colleagues. It also seems that men are generally more likely to have these attributes. So when it comes to pay negotiations, a situation where these attributes come into play, it's not unsurprising if men come out better on average.
I'd extend that outside of pay as well. Career success depends on you making your mark both in what you do and what people think you do. If men are more likely to shove it in your face, then I would expect them to do better. Does this idea extend to the world of modern art? As an outsider I'm not sure, but it's worth considering.
As for 'male gaze'; this exists because there's a big market for it. Women enjoy looking at naked men, but as much or as often as men enjoy looking at naked women? If the answer is 'no', then that alone can explain why female nudity is far more prevalent. I'm not sure whether that would impact the artist gender ratio, maybe if the amount of nude art is a large proportion of total art.
I thought I replied to this yesterday, but apparently not?
DeleteWell, I agree with what you're saying, and I'm really happy you posted this because I'm generally the girl saying "oh come on, you're making this up, you're seeing sexism where there isn't any" to other girls, but...
Firstly: if two people are doing the same job with the same results, one of them shouldn't get paid more just because they are more assertive. Men get paid more than women because they are in general more assertive would be another form of sexism, wouldn't it? I mean, I go against this generalization because I'm not certain that these "sex differences" or "sex attributes" actually exist, I tend to see as much difference between people of the same gender than people of different genders...
In any case, you're definitely right in one thing: if your business is selling (and art or books are businesses where you have to sell your wares) then you'll come out on top if you are a better salesperson. It has been shown that men are more capable of playing up their strengths, so yeah, they'll get their stuff out more easily. I accept that this is how it is, but I'm not sure that that doesn't mena that it's still sexist... In any case, I might accept that a guy sells more paintings because he's better at selling, but what I don't appreciate is art critics saying that he sells more paintings because he's a better painter. In my experience (which is not very extensive I'll admit), men aren't better artists than women. I'm not saying they're worse, but there are some women who are just as good as the best men, in my opinion.
The article also touches on something that I didn't want to go into here (in the blogpost) about women's art being described as non-art. I don't know about art, but here's the thing: if a man writes an article about social injustice from the point of view of a mother and her children walking miles for food (happened recently in Spain) it gets published as a society article, and it is discussed from the "social drama" point of view. If a woman published the same article, the point would eventually be made that this woman is sexist (or a feminist, depending on who gets there first) because she is describing a woman taking care of her children rather than a man, blah, blah, blah. It seems like women, every time we create something, have to be aware that they are speaking for all women, or that we have a duty to be feminist in what we create, or something like that. And I hate that too.
Well, assertive women likely get paid more than unassertive men. So I don't think that it can be considered sexism. I wouldn't say that it's a 'sex attribute' that men seem to be more assertive, it could just as likely be an effect of our society. I don't have enough data to say either way.
DeleteFrom my experience I agree that men aren't naturally better at art than women, I personally know more excellent female artists than male.
I think the traditional role of the male being the 'head' of a family has an impact on how people see the world. If you grew up with your father/grandfather being the dominant controlling influence in your family then I think you will unconsciously bias towards men when making decisions later in life. I think that this dominance is less for the younger generations today, but for the older generations it's still significant.
"I wouldn't say that it's a 'sex attribute' that men seem to be more assertive, it could just as likely be an effect of our society."
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"assertive women likely get paid more than unassertive men"; not sure about this, women tend to be labeled "bitchy" when they speak up (see what is said about women in politics, or this: http://fanniesroom.blogspot.se/2007/08/how-to-be-female-employee-tutorial.html "2. People perceive women who negotiate for more money as being "less nice" than those who do not. People are also less likely to want to work with women who negotiate for higher salaries.")
I can agree that we don't know. I've been reading a lot lately about sociobiology (a very "pop" science, especially where it relates to humans) and about sex behaviours, and the most I can say is that it's very difficult to determine if a behaviour is a genetic or a cultural adaptation. Although I suspect in the case of assertiveness it's very much societal. And not just that, I suspect that it's also a product of modern women having to balance being "feminine" with being good workers, etc.: older women in Spain don't seem to have any assertiveness problems whatsoever. I would like to see any man convince some of these women to let them (for example) cook cocido. And yes, I know, this is sexist in itself (the cooking thing), but not my point, my point is that they are assertive.
DeleteHmmmm... Again, I wouldn't judge either way until I have statistics with clear labels as to where the data is sourced from. Just because a woman is labeled "bitchy" doesn't mean she'll get paid less. I'll have to read the blogpost.
Interesting response to an interesting article :) I really liked the Felix article since it gives loads of examples. I'll admit it's a domain I don't know much about, except having read about the Guerilla Girls before.
ReplyDeleteI realise most of my art teachers (3 out of 4) in secondary and high school were female, and apparently keen to address the imbalance and present female artists, since I'd heard of the some of the more known modern ones (Nikki de Saint Phalle, Cindy Sherman).
I found the weak point of the article to be the same one as you point out, about the Male Gaze. The author kind of defines it and then goes against what he just said, as you explain (women are socialised to have this same Male Gaze as the men, which I definitely feel!)
I don't quite understand how you go from to "However, this would mean that men and women have essentially different ways of seeing the world, or seeing art. That our appreciation of beauty, of transcendence is fundamentally different." Obviously as the author shows, he enjoys the art produced by female artists. Maybe I'd go with the men who have the power/money to buy/sponsor the art are the sort of people who would enjoy the sort of art we see in galleries. Maybe reading Laurie Penny has finally rubbed on me, but I'd argue that art is a leisure that only rich people can enjoy and therefore the men described in the article aren't representative of all men.
I definitely agree with "I refuse to accept that Kipling wrote Kim for men, and that I can't understand it because I am a woman" etc !
Yeah, I have to admit I don't know much about the matter either, but I have noticed it when I go to museums.
DeleteFor me it was half and half, a had a female art teacher and a male one, but neither of them taught us much art history, so most of my art history knowledge comes from reading, going to museums or history classes, and none of these sources are great at highlighting women artists (all of my history teachers were male, and didn't know much about art history in any case).
I know what you mean... My point is trying to be this: OK, if we consider the male gaze, since we "all" have it, then there shouldn't be a difference in male and female artists. So let's see, what if it is the people controlling the art? Well if there are more men there, then that could explain it, but this would mean that indeed men and women see art differently (because if we didn't it wouldn't matter who was choosing what we see in museums, same argument as the male gaze one). So if it isn't the male gaze, and it isn't that men are controlling the art world, then it must be that women are being discriminated against not because of the kind of art they make, but because they are women.
Does this make more sense? The only point that I was trying to make there was that if we are all equal, and men and women are capable of making the same type of art, then there must be discrimination, since this is the only way to explain less women being exhibited. That's all I was trying to say.
Hehehe, I thought you'd appreciate that. Books is a topic that really gets to me because most books that are published as literary fiction are by men, whereas books of the same type published by women go into genre fiction... Not to mention all the stats about reviews (2/3 of books reviewed are written by men, and 90% of reviewers are men... but then, that might be because women publish less, I don't have stats on that). I have to admit, though, that if I were to write down a list of my ten top authors it would go something like this: Tolstoy, Homer (though this is more like saying anonymous), Shakespeare, Cervantes, Joyce, Kipling, Rushdie, Roth, Borges and García Márquez. (By the way, this is a terrible list, mixing gods with mortals, but it's off the top of my head). My point with the list is, all these people are men.
And it's not like I don't read women, I do, but I really do think these men are better. Of course, it might have to do with the whole historical side of things, but I don't know. Maybe men and women are different...
Oh ok, I got confused and thought you were saying that men and women viewed the world differently, but I agree with your argument here :)
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